Tuesday, July 8, 2014
ahh the Daily strength crowd "Is valigator right"?
Where Valigator is rightPosted on 07/06/14, 07:50 pm I know what you are thinking, there is never under any scenario where Val is right. But I think she raises a good point that we as a movement need to take into consideration.
When we as the sex offender lobby state that there are many seemingly benign crimes that could land you on the registry we are not doing ourselves any favors. Yes, it is technically possible that crimes such as urinating in public, streaking, Romeo and Juliet statutory rape, making love in public etc, can land you on the registry. However, this is not the majority of the people on the registry. It is not a good idea to use these extreme examples to show why the registry is invalid. Valigator correctly in my opinion calls bull s*** on this, and I think she speaks for the average joe. If I did not have a background in this, I would say, well let's jus take those crimes off of the list of having to register, problem solved.
We should not try and sell this to the public, because they are not buying it. Even if a majority of people on the registry were on it for those types of crimes wouldn't it make more sense to fix the problem of having those crimes on the registry?
How many people on this forum have a loved one or are an offender because of urinating in public, romeo and Juliet statutory rape, streaking, making love in public? How many people on this forum are here for any of the above listed crimes? Just from casual observance of the posts, it seems like a majority of the people on this forum are here because of CP.?
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Umm yest I have been "observing this crowd" for a long time and NO the majority are not there for CP..many are there due to thier "loved ones" making plans to have sex with 11,12, and 13 year olds.. this discussion disintegrates into the usual bullshit excuses and the push to excuse their "loved ones" for what they do..In MY BOOK? there is no excuse to put one's immediate family into the trials and tribulations that these "freaks" do..the prison phone system, the canteen, the lawyers fees, the amount of "shame" the "residency restrictions" they put the family thru.. yet here is the website for excusing anything that can be excused??? and always at the end of the day this group blames the system or any damn thing else they can for their woes, never the crime itself..http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/families-of-sex-offenders/discussions/messages/19156947
It only takes 24 hours before Post exampled as above get the Natives riled up and start acting like raw meat was thrown in the cage. Derek with his usual flare for stirring "discontent" have the members knawing at each other. And they wonder why as a "collective" they cant accomplish anything?? It's more important to take issue with me commenting on a post made to their site than discussing the "content" of that post. All one has to do is stand back and watch them cannabilize each other while using me as the common denominater..Which leaves one to ponder, do they really think only Valigator sees them in their less than persuasive light or does it occur to them that prosecutors, judges, PO's and those who have the power to determine their futures see it also??
So, what you really meant to say is you joined DS and posted comments to stroke your own ego.
Actually anonymous I subscribe to the mantra of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer..not much more than that.
So with my usual morning cup of coffee I also have to digest the "tit for tat" on the daily strength blog under "Is Valigator Right" and watch it turn into Derek aka Oncefallen holding court and calling the shots on the sex offenders "game Plan" to convince the public "what great guys they are" and if the participants of the forum dont agree, Derek then reprimands them like the children and the meek followers that they are and accuses them of being subversives..and one by one they fall like dominos "afraid of his wrath". and YET I'M the BULLY? Even the Men of this forum appear like cowards afraid of him. Here is my two cents (again) Derek is by far the most damaging and least persuasive member of this Group and their efforts to reform. But he is idolized due to his unrepentant, hostile and very public outrage towards the public and their efforts of punishments for these crimes, What the members of Daily Strength keep forgetting is Derek Logue has nothing left to lose, he is and will always be the lowest legal rung on the ladder in the eyes of the public, so his participation in reform becomes a negative effort. There are just some people who should never be the "front men" and women (thoughtasweak) acting as catalyst for change, as soon as they open their mouths the entire message is lost when one looks at their motives. Derek is a women hater and displays that even with those whom he hopes to garner favor with and yet they dont see thru it? Does give one pause for thought how many Men and Women cower under him? One doesnt have to be a rocket scientist to DIGEST "that" on any given morning with their coffee..
If one is to look at an even bigger picture of sexual offenders and their characteristics there are some common denominators that "brighter persons" than myself have determined. Many Male offenders have in one form or another been immasculated in their early formative years which can pave the way for either becoming a victim or a victimizer. Derek has made no secret that his "informative years" were frought with dysfunction and a mother in and out of prison plus a multitude of other examples of hostilities he obviously has never dealt with. But I am not here to determine what ink spots to show Derek Logue and offer up suggestions on how to fix him. That ship has sailed, but to watch the other "male" offenders he interacts with and their obvious "misplaced" respect and wide berth they allow him, does leave one to see how Immasculating our young boys at critical ages can and does open up the dangerous door of targeting younger victims for a grasp at feeling more powerful and more superior than they really are. Add on top of that the "women who do their battles for them" WAR, USA FAIR, SOSEN and the most vocal of RSOL groups (always women) re-enforces my observations that even offenders have a heirachy and those in the upper eschalon (the most angry)seem to have the most propensity for damage, whether to society or to their own interest??
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